Casting the bulb

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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby noemar » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:30 pm

I still have the keel plug that Chad designed. If anyone out there needs it let me know. Marino in Toronto wanted it but shipping to Canada is high.

Merry Christmas and Happy New year to all i550 builders and sailors.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby jray » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:17 am

I believe it's a perfect canvas for a cool paint job. Love the tail, lots of possibilities, maybe a control line that makes it move. ;) for those days when the wind dies.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby TexLex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:36 pm

Vertical tailfin bulb on Wild Oats XI. We can see how she does on Boxing Day before we make changes to our designs!

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/w ... 6538651717
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby Chad » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:20 pm

Rats, jig's up! ...I did think that bulb's tail (without the wings) looked a bit like the new beav tail, so that's something.

I think another canter did this last year as well, I recall reading about it. The guys that did the swiss T780 ...ah, heck I'll dig it up and here it is... where they compare their (earlier) fin to Gamesa the Imoca 60. Basically, they design the struts on the canters to be as small as possible, and they found that the huge bulbs were oscillating on the end and the fin stopped the oscillation.

Not something most i550-istas need to deal with. Well, except those with way under-spec keel fins! :oops:
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby admin » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:24 am

There was the hummmm. I think it was on Tokyo.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby Chad » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:39 pm

Different kettle o fish. Bulb oscillation is probably around 1Hz, humm is maybe 1kHz?

Humm is almost always solvable by trailing edge treatment, usually cutting to an assymmetric bevel.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby stealth » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:51 pm

noemar wrote:I still have the keel plug that Chad designed. If anyone out there needs it let me know. Marino in Toronto wanted it but shipping to Canada is high.

Merry Christmas and Happy New year to all i550 builders and sailors.
Noel

I am interested in the plug. What does it weigh?
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby Chad » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:41 pm

It's foam, pretty light, less than 5# all packaged I recall. USPS says it'll cost about US$55 to ship to Singapore, as long as the package can be kept less than 36" long. The bulb is 34" long or so, so that should be doable.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby stealth » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:58 am

Chad wrote:It's foam, pretty light, less than 5# all packaged I recall. USPS says it'll cost about US$55 to ship to Singapore, as long as the package can be kept less than 36" long. The bulb is 34" long or so, so that should be doable.


Then I'm in for it. Let us get the X-mas over and we can then exchange details and I will take it off your hands. It will cost more to put one up based on my calculations.

Wishing you a Merry X-mas there and let us touch base and get the shipping set up.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby lohwaikin » Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:19 am

Did anyone say Singapore?
Hull 437 waiting for muscles to flip over.
Haven't done much about the bulb yet.
Lost contact with the metal recycling guy on the island who mentioned he poured bulbs for keel boats here...
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby Chad » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:10 am

stealth wrote:
Chad wrote:It's foam, pretty light, less than 5# all packaged I recall. USPS says it'll cost about US$55 to ship to Singapore, as long as the package can be kept less than 36" long. The bulb is 34" long or so, so that should be doable.


Then I'm in for it. Let us get the X-mas over and we can then exchange details and I will take it off your hands. It will cost more to put one up based on my calculations.

Wishing you a Merry X-mas there and let us touch base and get the shipping set up.


Noel has the bulb pattern now. It'll be between you and him to figure out if it can happen. Hope it does, that's the reason I made it!

Merry Christmas to i550ers all.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby noemar » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:18 am

On line estimates with UPS and FedX were priced very high.brought item to UPS store and the cost to Toronto is under $30.00 .So bulb pattern will be sent to Marino in Toronto later on this week.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby stealth » Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:08 am

noemar wrote:On line estimates with UPS and FedX were priced very high.brought item to UPS store and the cost to Toronto is under $30.00 .So bulb pattern will be sent to Marino in Toronto later on this week.
Noel


Hi Noel,
Does this mean that the pattern are not available anymore or?

If there is a queue then I'will take a number till the pattern are free.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby stealth » Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:13 am

lohwaikin wrote:Did anyone say Singapore?
Hull 437 waiting for muscles to flip over.
Haven't done much about the bulb yet.
Lost contact with the metal recycling guy on the island who mentioned he poured bulbs for keel boats here...
Cheers & Merry Christmas!


Yep, Loh. I am looking into getting the pattern so that a few bulbs can be casted in one go. Have not had time to come around to check up on your build, but can see of the last pix that you are doing good.
Give me a buzz if you need help to flip over the hull, I am sure I cen get a few goys with me that is also into boating.
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Kind regards
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby noemar » Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:30 am

I willbe shipping the keel bulb plug to Marino in Toronto this week. Anyone wanting to use after will need to contact Marino.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby stealth » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:05 am

Chad wrote:
MkIII bulb.jpg


Anybody up for a version 3 bulb???
:roll:

Looks like the fins could have helped Wild Oats to cut 20 min off the S-H record.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby stealth » Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:07 am

noemar wrote:I willbe shipping the keel bulb plug to Marino in Toronto this week. Anyone wanting to use after will need to contact Marino.
Noel

Marino,
Do buzz me when you are done with the bulb plug. Then I will take it off your hands.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby noemar » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:35 pm

Bulb shipped to Marino in Toronto this morning.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby AnteRi » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:05 am

jray wrote:A try at some bulb pictures.


Really good looking mold, from what is it made?
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby jray » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:04 am

The male plug was made out of light ply and foam. The mould was made out of a product called hydrocal. I believe manufactured by us gypsum co. It worked well and will be used again for another build here locally. One trick is to heat the mould to get all the moisture out before pouring the lead. That will help keep steam from bubbling through the lead, water and hot lead don't mix well. Pre-heating will also keep your mould from cracking. ;)
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby Kevin » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:58 am

Jon, Does this mean that Steve is still working on his boat. I haven't seen anything from him in a long time. That's good news. Kevin.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby jray » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:25 pm

Yes Steve is still building. I believe he is working the cabin and deck now.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby Kevin » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:02 pm

Fantastic news. That will give us 2 reasons to come out west :-). On that topic, my wife pointed out that I could travel to MT without the boat. But a regatta would be more fun with more boats.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby jray » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:04 am

At the risk of hijacking this thread more. Steve may be some time finishing, building in a barn with no real heat source. A Regatta isn't necessary for a trip out. We race most every Saturday during the summer months. And if not it is alwase fun spending a day rounding the islands. :)

Bring your wife and call it a vacation.
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Re: Casting the bulb

Postby Kiwi22 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:47 am

Anybody know how to contact Marino, I assume he has the bulb by now and am looking it muscle in on his pour, well at least help and learn. I'm an hour north of Toronto (hull#489)
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